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    Phoenix just now got 4th...

    Boston gets #1. Fakers never goes #1--The only damn good thing out of this. Very likely get Alonzo Ball
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    Remember we talked about Paul Millsap possibly coming to Phoenix last year? Now we get to do it again:
    https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...-offseason-nba

    Even better how about getting Kristaps Porzingis, who clearly doesn't want to return to the New York dysfunction? But definitely not at the expense of Devin Booker! He's untouchable and basically a potentially great player the Suns can build around:
    http://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/2...trade-for-him/

    And there's the Blake Griffin rumour. Like Blake a lot. Plays for LA's REAL pro basketball team, now and forever. He likes Phoenix. But, unless there's some vets already in place for such a young team to learn from, he doesn't quite fit into the rebuilding plans. His injury history are a potential problem too. DeAndre Jordan is another possibility. But his well-chronicled free throw shooting woes...If we send away Tyson Chandler and get Miami's lottery pick, OK. But Phoenix, you gotta cool down.

    I share Tim Holstad's position with Phoenix staying the course by building and learning with youth. Don't get it wrong. I would like a nice deep Western Conference playoff run and have great teams again with championship titles, absolutely. Not at the expense of stunting young players' growth. We must know that Golden St. will not relinquish the Western Conference crown anytime soon for several years with several of their principal players now in their prime. If we can succeed into the NBA playoffs while our nasty, hateful, vile, odious, narcisstic, low down and dirty historic oppressors stay right where they are now as we do it, all the better!
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/...enix-suns-fan/
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    Many of us Suns fans, myself included, expect Eric Bledsoe to be outta here in Phoenix. Right now, ESPN's NBA sources say Phoenix and Denver are mulling over a draft night trade to send Bledsoe to Denver for Emmanuel Mundiay and Denver's #13 pick. Eric's is in his prime at age 28 improving with each passing season and deserves at least a playoff taste with the Denver Nuggets very much right there until the very end for the 8th and final West playoff spot with some exciting young players like Galinari, Murray, Jokic, Faried, and Hernangomez with veteran guidance Bledsoe brings. Just need to take it to the next level. Talks are fluid. Bledsoe has no upside anymore like with this year's Phoenix's lottery pick.

    A growing sense here that Phoenix will select either Kentucky's De'Aaron Fox or Duke's Jayson Tatum from St. Louis. If the Bledsoe-Mundiay trade happens, we could see Tatum to join the Suns on such a very young team. Fox will respond to Phoenix's need for versatility, playmaking, energy, play at both ends at the floor, and defense to amply compliment Devin Booker at the backcourt. Plus, he's tall--and continue on the Kentucky Wildcats-Phoenix Suns pipeline. Florida St.'s Jonathan Issac addresses the Suns' need at forward. 2017 is actually a great year to have a lottery pick with players that can scream All-Star and superstar potential. Josh Jackson from Kansas provides some much needed athletic, speedy, intelligent defense on the unselfish two-way wing. With ruthless attitude. He's an awesome selection if Jackson happily falls Phoenix's way. Still, the Suns must ace this pick and perhaps trade for another in this the most important Phoenix Suns draft in recent memory.

    Actually getting the #4 pick isn't as bad as you may think. Look at Kristaps Porzingis (coincidentally), Aaron Gordon, Cody Zeller, Dion Waiters, and Tristan Thompson.

    Phoenix's Summer League team in Las Vegas will play against Sacramento, Dallas, and Houston all at the Thomas & Mack Center this July:
    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...hedule-release
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    Yes, Josh Jackson is everything the Phoenix Suns and its fans need coming into next season to improve in every way! Five reasons why to be estatic. If Earl Watson and his coaching staff can get him to develop a really nice shooting stroke, even better! Even Sacramento knew the Suns were going to select him at #4, even more so with Jayson Tatum moving up a bit early for Boston to select him
    http://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/2...tatic-draft/6/

    Plus, we got a couple of steals in the second round in Devon Reed from Miami (FL) and Alec Peters from Valaparaiso.

    Since we're entering PHX's big golden 5-0 next season that was officially marked on draft day. Time to take a look at a series of 50th anniversary logos they'll sport including a really nice one in Spanish. Could've been even better if it incorporates and get inspired by past and beloved jerseys and logos:
    http://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/2...rate-50-years/
    https://twitter.com/conradburry/stat...et%2Findex.php
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    Get to know our second rounders Devon Reed and Alec Peters. Reed can defend his position and provide or make open spot-up shots. Peters will struggle for minutes even with his shooting and rebounding on the depth chart at either forward position and will very likely spend lots of time with Northern Arizona next season. Not a bad place.
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/...d-round-picks/

    Possible that Tyler Ulis can be a (different) version of Phoenix had with Isaiah Thomas and can move into Eric Bledsoe's starting lineup position, assuming if the latter gets traded. Great as part of the second unit if he can develop a lethal scoring mentality with consistentcy:
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/...of-tyler-ulis/

    Great draft but there's important questions the Suns must answer with a couple of RFAs in Alex Len and Alvin Williams (like to see both back and hopefully for Len to stay healthy) and does Eric Bledsoe fit in the youth movement? I expect Bledsoe will be dealt by the trading deadline. Then Phoenix can work hard on getting back and maturing towards championship contender status!
    http://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/2...-championship/
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    Growing credibility exists from the Chinese social networking site Weibo where a poster there uploaded that the Phoenix Suns will get a new look for their new Nike uniforms coming up. I--and I'm certain that a lot of fellow Suns fans too--will be absolutely none too pleased over the beloved sunstreak missing on the road uniforms. This may be another alternate though. So we must chill for now:
    http://news.sportslogos.net/2017/07/...forms-surface/
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    The 5 takeaways we have learned about the Phoenix Suns Las Vegas Summer League team at 2-4 with an extremely young team. Though we're not supposed to read very much into the Summer League games, Phoenix's players there show some promise for the future. Even Dragan Bender's:
    https://hoopshabit.com/2017/07/15/ph...summer-league/
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    Robert Sarver now is leaning towards the option of just renovating the Talking Stick Resort Arena downtown--and the Phoenix Coyotes NHL team are not invited in it again:
    http://arenadigest.com/2017/07/20/ph...arena-coyotes/
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    Going to be real nice. Phoenix will face the resurrected Brisbane Bullets in Phoenix October 13th for a historic preseason match as part of a trio of NBL-NBA preseason matches. They're both kindred spirits since both teams last in their respective standings in the NBL and in the NBA's Pacific Division/Western Conference:
    https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...a-city-thunder
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/...22a1142e9f9f85

    And last season's Dan Majerle Hustle Award winner Alvin "Big Sauce" Williams comes back to Phoenix with a multiyear contract:
    http://www.nba.com/suns/press-releas...sauce-williams

    As much as I would like the idea of a Suns starting backcourt of Booker and Irving with Eric Bledsoe moving on to Cleveland in a trade, I can't see Kyrie heading to Phoenix and running the show. Remember, the Cavs still hold two further years in his current contract, and Phoenix may have to give some key young players not named Josh Jackson. Draft picks are OK but I like to see how this youth further develops.
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    The Phoenix Suns embark its 50th golden season starting this month, the longest-running professional sports franchise based in the state of Arizona by far. Hopefully, though it doesn't look good from the outside judging from its very young roster, they'll be better this season than the last in the Pacific Division. They may not make the playoffs but striking distance from it while learning and growing should serve as a goal. We'll get more into the season's Suns makeup very soon regarding its prospects, last season, and other things.

    But with this first post in these new look boards. Let's look back at the very first season that started it all for Phoenix when it entered the NBA with the Milwaukee Bucks, whom the Suns won back-to-back games against, in a lifetime that should've seen plenty of NBA titles at this point. Hell, Milwaukee's got one. After its January 22, 1968 birth, Suns' ownership included singer Andy Williams and former Chicago Bulls scout Jerry Colangelo (who's still in the NBA) as GM and Johnny "Red" Kerr as its first head coach with "Original Sun" Tom Van Arsdale, Gail Goodrich (two of the very first Phoenix Suns NBA All-Stars for the West when there were less teams in the NBA back then and had just about every NBA team represented), Dave Lattin, Jim Fox, George Wilson, and All-NBA Rookie team member Gary Gregor. Won its first regular season game against Seattle on October 18 with 27 points from Goodrich. Talent was apparent to build around Goodrich and Van Arsdale. Thanks to Valley of the Suns:
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/09/...-suns-1968-69/
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    Sad news to report on the eve of the Suns' 50th anniversary: the great Hall of Famer Connie "The Hawk" Hawkins with that finesse dunking skills and was a magician with the ball passes away Friday at the age of 75. A tribute to him here will come shortly before the Suns open the season:
    https://sports.yahoo.com/connie-hawk...191556653.html
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    Just a short friendly reminder that the Brisbane Bullets will play some hoops with the Phoenix Suns at the Talking Stick Resort Arena Friday night. Brisbane vows to bring an "aggro, physical, team-oriented Australian approach" to my Suns. And let the 3s fly too. Devin Booker will play despite his sore left knee. Phoenix better hope not to get shocked like OKC was with Melbourne:
    http://www.news.com.au/sport/basketb...0d8d30108ed990
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/...f825d53fed2280
    https://au.sports.yahoo.com/basketba...elbourne-tilt/
    http://www.news.com.au/sport/basketb...053ad8a1cefb3b
    http://www.araratadvertiser.com.au/s...son-challenge/
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    Brisbane Bullets did give the young Suns much to handle like their NBL brethren Melbourne (I REFUSE to call them by their new soccer-sounding name) did to OKC with their unique opportunity. But really Phoenix never truly trailed 114-93. Booker seems to enjoy these international affairs like with what he did in Mexico City with 31 points, five rebounds, and five assists against the Bullets playing with a less sore left knee. Meanwhile Andrej Lemanis finds an admirer in Suns coach Earl Watson, who like me never set foot in Australia but is eager to do so:
    http://www.nba.com/suns/postgame/sun...isbane-bullets

    Two days away from the season opener Wednesday night as the Phoenix Suns start their golden 50th season at home against the Talking Stick Resort Arena with the Portland Trail Blazers and Damian "Dame Dolla" Lillard. CJ MacCollum likely won't be there as he serves his 1-game suspension. This starts a two-game home opening stand. Afterwards, it's those snakes in the grass from the Now Deservedly Crumbling Evil Laker Empire.

    Normally I don't do the Suns players transactions unless it's significant. But at the eve of the regular season starting, I'll start it off by mentioning that the Suns waived French power forward Tidjan Keita (a former Cegep de Thetford player in Quebec, Canada and was just recently signed days ago), NAZ Suns player Elijah Millsap, Sudanese player Peter Jok, and...Anthony Bennett to finalize their opening roster. Bit of a surprise with him being there but I did wish as he was still in the NBA back then that Bennett would try the Suns. All apparently are heading to Northern Arizona up in Prescott Valley.

    Will discuss more about what lies ahead for Phoenix tomorrow. However, I do not expect much from them this upcoming season, their 50th in Arizona's state capital. No, they can't catch Golden St. Or Toronto and Oklahoma City and Denver and Minnesota for that matter. But I always want them to finish better than the Now Deservedly Crumbling Evil Laker Empire! There's lots of intriguing talent, athleticism, and potential there with the Suns starting with Devin Booker, no doubt he'll be a multiple All-Star with his multilayered all-around scoring and help the Suns be worth watching (I'll watch regardless). Just don't expect lots of consistency with such a young with many players in their early 20s, and that's where the continuity will lie with youth. As intriguing as Dragan Bender and Marquese Chriss are, they both endured shaky rookie season adjusting to the NBA with the former not playing much minutes back at Maccabi Tel Aviv and, as one anonymous rival NBA scout puts it on SI, are too young to check out and disinterested. I do hope both will improve to hopefully utilize their front court versatility and potential to play multiple positions and eventually be serious contenders for the Most Improved Player Award. Speedy and fast as they are, Phoenix won't stop anybody yet having Josh Jackson with his defense, skills, size, and athleticism certainly more than helps and shows the young players that defense is cool. All those attributes make him worthy of a starting role, but it won't happen right away unless TJ Warren falters. Not worried about his shooting motion right now. Will expect both vets Tyson Chandler and Jared Dudley to get shipped during the course of the season; I would like for them to eventually get an additional star to make that playoff push. Name of the game is showing improvements on team defense, 3-point shooting, and team chemistry. Booker can improve on passing ability. Don't look at the standings largely for improvement. If they come within striking distance of playoff contention, fine. But let's not look into that much this season.
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    THIS! is how you open your 50th season in Phoenix at home last night while wearing your new Nike reproductions of those original 1968-69 home jerseys as the Valley's first big-time pro franchise??!! This is how you get competitive last night? This is how salute all those great Suns players from the past from over the last 50 years?! With the worst losing margin for the Suns ever? 48 points. Yes, this is a very young and inexperienced Suns team but...Damn, what a very ugly game against Portland...
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/10/...ed-by-blazers/
    https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...-all-the-blood
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OIJVuwD6RA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xehHGz4Gl3g
    http://www.azcentral.com/story/sport...ers/778981001/
    https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...story-nba-news

    No veterans in sync with the young. And Marquise Chriss getting FIVE fouls in the first 12 minutes?! Yes, every NBA team has its bad games. Teaching moments for everything indeed after this deflation all season long henceforth.

    With consistent winning not much of an option, just playing more competitive, hopefully see what Dragan Bender and Marquise Chriss really are about, continue to commit strongly to improve defense and open shooting, and work hard to show the Phoenix community to get them all in for the future:
    http://www.azcentral.com/story/sport...ers/778981001/

    I shudder to think about those oppressive snakes in the grass coming next will fare against the Suns...

    Friday afternoon the Talking Stick Resort Arena will also host Connie Hawkins' memorial service:
    https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...-the-hawk-tsra
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    The Phoenix Suns' fewest stint record of tenure for a head coach from the start of the season, as noted by Valley of the Suns after the shocking and horrific season opener blasting to Portland, before getting fired was held by Bill Van Breda Kolff. Let go after the first 7 games in 1972. GM Jerry Colangelo took over. Now starting yesterday, Earl Watson is fired following the first three and ultimately disappointing games of this season, its 50th, setting a new dubious franchise record. VOTS ominously posted a tweet about referring to BVBK that you can see in my previous post on a link there. NBA coaches usually don't get fired 3 games into the very young season, when it's all over there's an array of potential candidates to choose from:
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/10/...nd-whats-next/

    Why did Watson got canned? His purpose during his 115 games as coach was to apparently oversee the intentional tanking in the transition to young players in somewhat reluctantly granting them greater roles but was really unhappy with the management-mandated strategic resting of Tyson Chandler and Eric Bledsoe last season. Often at odds with the Ryan McDonough management while instilling trust that fell on deaf ears on the players' part. Suns players wanted to strive towards winning. No lectures. Tried to create an us versus them attitude from Watson. No cohesive offense (too simplified and not placing them in best positions), displaying some of the worst defense in Phoenix Suns franchise history, no urgency, little discipline, floundering structure, and no strong grooming of the young players. During the first three games to open the 2017-18 season, all losses, the Phoenix Suns lost by a combined margin differential of 92 points to Portland, the Now Deservedly Crumbling Evil Laker Empire (its most competitive game but wrongfully losing by 2), and the LA Clippers on their first road trip of the season. All Even regressed. He had little coaching experience before taking over the Suns but played 13 years in the NBA. He's perhaps better suited as a college coach in a comforting and loving big brother role stressing love and family in a Sunday pastor-like style. Many Suns fans are glad he's gone. I'm one of them. Getting frustrated in seeing the Suns play.

    Bledsoe tweeted yesterday at the time of the Watson firing that he longer wanted to be in Phoenix as the situation grows progressively and rapidly miserable. Clearly he does not like the direction and crisis around him with the state of the team. Expected for him to get traded prior to the season starting. Perhaps to Cleveland with pal King James as part of a Kyrie Irving deal. Or any team in a win-now mode. But when Brevin Knight tore his ACL during the offseason, Eric had to stay for the time being.

    What would Canadian Jay Triano and former Suns player Tyrone Corbin would bring to this very young roster? What Phoenix needs is structure, discipline, cohesion, academic and professional growth, improved defense (both individual and team), "teach and preach an appropriate offensive and defensive system that the young players need to develop into the kind of players that their draft spots warrant, as well as someone who can evolve as a coach and move from mentor of youth to voice of consistency as they begin to enter their primes, and [ultimately] win." They're dead last in a whole plethora of categories--9, to be exact. I like and respect Triano highly, and has his friend Steve Nash as a top reference. When he was Toronto, things of course there up in his native Canada in his first foray as an NBA head coach didn't work out; the Toronto Raptors in hindsight were a couple of players and two seasons away from playoff contention back then. Hoped he would get a second chance at that. He already is the Team Canada coach and that itself features several rising young, deep, and talented players, many incidentally from Toronto now as the Canadian basketball capital. But can't coach them right away with serious NBA commitments as Ryerson Unversity coach Roy Rana currently acts as caretaker. Things need to change and fast. Can't see the playoffs but need to display better with Sacramento coming to town.
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