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    Phoenix just now got 4th...

    Boston gets #1. Fakers never goes #1--The only damn good thing out of this. Very likely get Alonzo Ball
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    Remember we talked about Paul Millsap possibly coming to Phoenix last year? Now we get to do it again:
    https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...-offseason-nba

    Even better how about getting Kristaps Porzingis, who clearly doesn't want to return to the New York dysfunction? But definitely not at the expense of Devin Booker! He's untouchable and basically a potentially great player the Suns can build around:
    http://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/2...trade-for-him/

    And there's the Blake Griffin rumour. Like Blake a lot. Plays for LA's REAL pro basketball team, now and forever. He likes Phoenix. But, unless there's some vets already in place for such a young team to learn from, he doesn't quite fit into the rebuilding plans. His injury history are a potential problem too. DeAndre Jordan is another possibility. But his well-chronicled free throw shooting woes...If we send away Tyson Chandler and get Miami's lottery pick, OK. But Phoenix, you gotta cool down.

    I share Tim Holstad's position with Phoenix staying the course by building and learning with youth. Don't get it wrong. I would like a nice deep Western Conference playoff run and have great teams again with championship titles, absolutely. Not at the expense of stunting young players' growth. We must know that Golden St. will not relinquish the Western Conference crown anytime soon for several years with several of their principal players now in their prime. If we can succeed into the NBA playoffs while our nasty, hateful, vile, odious, narcisstic, low down and dirty historic oppressors stay right where they are now as we do it, all the better!
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    Many of us Suns fans, myself included, expect Eric Bledsoe to be outta here in Phoenix. Right now, ESPN's NBA sources say Phoenix and Denver are mulling over a draft night trade to send Bledsoe to Denver for Emmanuel Mundiay and Denver's #13 pick. Eric's is in his prime at age 28 improving with each passing season and deserves at least a playoff taste with the Denver Nuggets very much right there until the very end for the 8th and final West playoff spot with some exciting young players like Galinari, Murray, Jokic, Faried, and Hernangomez with veteran guidance Bledsoe brings. Just need to take it to the next level. Talks are fluid. Bledsoe has no upside anymore like with this year's Phoenix's lottery pick.

    A growing sense here that Phoenix will select either Kentucky's De'Aaron Fox or Duke's Jayson Tatum from St. Louis. If the Bledsoe-Mundiay trade happens, we could see Tatum to join the Suns on such a very young team. Fox will respond to Phoenix's need for versatility, playmaking, energy, play at both ends at the floor, and defense to amply compliment Devin Booker at the backcourt. Plus, he's tall--and continue on the Kentucky Wildcats-Phoenix Suns pipeline. Florida St.'s Jonathan Issac addresses the Suns' need at forward. 2017 is actually a great year to have a lottery pick with players that can scream All-Star and superstar potential. Josh Jackson from Kansas provides some much needed athletic, speedy, intelligent defense on the unselfish two-way wing. With ruthless attitude. He's an awesome selection if Jackson happily falls Phoenix's way. Still, the Suns must ace this pick and perhaps trade for another in this the most important Phoenix Suns draft in recent memory.

    Actually getting the #4 pick isn't as bad as you may think. Look at Kristaps Porzingis (coincidentally), Aaron Gordon, Cody Zeller, Dion Waiters, and Tristan Thompson.

    Phoenix's Summer League team in Las Vegas will play against Sacramento, Dallas, and Houston all at the Thomas & Mack Center this July:
    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...hedule-release
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    Yes, Josh Jackson is everything the Phoenix Suns and its fans need coming into next season to improve in every way! Five reasons why to be estatic. If Earl Watson and his coaching staff can get him to develop a really nice shooting stroke, even better! Even Sacramento knew the Suns were going to select him at #4, even more so with Jayson Tatum moving up a bit early for Boston to select him
    http://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/2...tatic-draft/6/

    Plus, we got a couple of steals in the second round in Devon Reed from Miami (FL) and Alec Peters from Valaparaiso.

    Since we're entering PHX's big golden 5-0 next season that was officially marked on draft day. Time to take a look at a series of 50th anniversary logos they'll sport including a really nice one in Spanish. Could've been even better if it incorporates and get inspired by past and beloved jerseys and logos:
    http://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/2...rate-50-years/
    https://twitter.com/conradburry/stat...et%2Findex.php
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    Get to know our second rounders Devon Reed and Alec Peters. Reed can defend his position and provide or make open spot-up shots. Peters will struggle for minutes even with his shooting and rebounding on the depth chart at either forward position and will very likely spend lots of time with Northern Arizona next season. Not a bad place.
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/...d-round-picks/

    Possible that Tyler Ulis can be a (different) version of Phoenix had with Isaiah Thomas and can move into Eric Bledsoe's starting lineup position, assuming if the latter gets traded. Great as part of the second unit if he can develop a lethal scoring mentality with consistentcy:
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/...of-tyler-ulis/

    Great draft but there's important questions the Suns must answer with a couple of RFAs in Alex Len and Alvin Williams (like to see both back and hopefully for Len to stay healthy) and does Eric Bledsoe fit in the youth movement? I expect Bledsoe will be dealt by the trading deadline. Then Phoenix can work hard on getting back and maturing towards championship contender status!
    http://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/06/2...-championship/
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    Growing credibility exists from the Chinese social networking site Weibo where a poster there uploaded that the Phoenix Suns will get a new look for their new Nike uniforms coming up. I--and I'm certain that a lot of fellow Suns fans too--will be absolutely none too pleased over the beloved sunstreak missing on the road uniforms. This may be another alternate though. So we must chill for now:
    http://news.sportslogos.net/2017/07/...forms-surface/
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    The 5 takeaways we have learned about the Phoenix Suns Las Vegas Summer League team at 2-4 with an extremely young team. Though we're not supposed to read very much into the Summer League games, Phoenix's players there show some promise for the future. Even Dragan Bender's:
    https://hoopshabit.com/2017/07/15/ph...summer-league/
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    Robert Sarver now is leaning towards the option of just renovating the Talking Stick Resort Arena downtown--and the Phoenix Coyotes NHL team are not invited in it again:
    http://arenadigest.com/2017/07/20/ph...arena-coyotes/
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    Going to be real nice. Phoenix will face the resurrected Brisbane Bullets in Phoenix October 13th for a historic preseason match as part of a trio of NBL-NBA preseason matches. They're both kindred spirits since both teams last in their respective standings in the NBL and in the NBA's Pacific Division/Western Conference:
    https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...a-city-thunder
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/...22a1142e9f9f85

    And last season's Dan Majerle Hustle Award winner Alvin "Big Sauce" Williams comes back to Phoenix with a multiyear contract:
    http://www.nba.com/suns/press-releas...sauce-williams

    As much as I would like the idea of a Suns starting backcourt of Booker and Irving with Eric Bledsoe moving on to Cleveland in a trade, I can't see Kyrie heading to Phoenix and running the show. Remember, the Cavs still hold two further years in his current contract, and Phoenix may have to give some key young players not named Josh Jackson. Draft picks are OK but I like to see how this youth further develops.
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    The Phoenix Suns embark its 50th golden season starting this month, the longest-running professional sports franchise based in the state of Arizona by far. Hopefully, though it doesn't look good from the outside judging from its very young roster, they'll be better this season than the last in the Pacific Division. They may not make the playoffs but striking distance from it while learning and growing should serve as a goal. We'll get more into the season's Suns makeup very soon regarding its prospects, last season, and other things.

    But with this first post in these new look boards. Let's look back at the very first season that started it all for Phoenix when it entered the NBA with the Milwaukee Bucks, whom the Suns won back-to-back games against, in a lifetime that should've seen plenty of NBA titles at this point. Hell, Milwaukee's got one. After its January 22, 1968 birth, Suns' ownership included singer Andy Williams and former Chicago Bulls scout Jerry Colangelo (who's still in the NBA) as GM and Johnny "Red" Kerr as its first head coach with "Original Sun" Tom Van Arsdale, Gail Goodrich (two of the very first Phoenix Suns NBA All-Stars for the West when there were less teams in the NBA back then and had just about every NBA team represented), Dave Lattin, Jim Fox, George Wilson, and All-NBA Rookie team member Gary Gregor. Won its first regular season game against Seattle on October 18 with 27 points from Goodrich. Talent was apparent to build around Goodrich and Van Arsdale. Thanks to Valley of the Suns:
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/09/...-suns-1968-69/
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    Sad news to report on the eve of the Suns' 50th anniversary: the great Hall of Famer Connie "The Hawk" Hawkins with that finesse dunking skills and was a magician with the ball passes away Friday at the age of 75. A tribute to him here will come shortly before the Suns open the season:
    https://sports.yahoo.com/connie-hawk...191556653.html
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    Just a short friendly reminder that the Brisbane Bullets will play some hoops with the Phoenix Suns at the Talking Stick Resort Arena Friday night. Brisbane vows to bring an "aggro, physical, team-oriented Australian approach" to my Suns. And let the 3s fly too. Devin Booker will play despite his sore left knee. Phoenix better hope not to get shocked like OKC was with Melbourne:
    http://www.news.com.au/sport/basketb...0d8d30108ed990
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/...f825d53fed2280
    https://au.sports.yahoo.com/basketba...elbourne-tilt/
    http://www.news.com.au/sport/basketb...053ad8a1cefb3b
    http://www.araratadvertiser.com.au/s...son-challenge/
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    I came in here expecting this thread to have just become a link to black market euthanasia drugs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Houndawg #55 View Post
    I came in here expecting this thread to have just become a link to black market euthanasia drugs...
    Thankfully that hasn't happened. Yet. And it won't as long as I'm around. Will say I'm not very happened with the direction of this 50th Phoenix Suns season right now that I will discuss very soon here. All this tanking...
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    I must say it was good to have a trade deadline where my favourite player remaining on the roster wasn't shipped out.

    Nice change of pace.
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    12-game Suns losing streak with the Clippers right ahead tonight
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    Now it's 13 losses in a row with LA's REAL pro basketball team beating them last night.

    But in the midst of all this horrific losing and tanking to get a desirable gamechanging draft pick where our Phoenix Suns should be firmly in the Western Conference Playoffs in this 50th season and maybe a championship. There's something to savor as three beloved former Phoenix Suns players from the recent past will get the call to the hall in 2x MVP Steve Nash aka Captain Canada, Jason Kidd, and Grant Hill. On the other hand, those three sadly remind us of what we not too long ago nicely had; none of them are walking through that door now:
    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...ball-hall-fame
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    Two more people with Phoenix Suns ties will get enshrined at Naismith this year in former Suns player Charlie Scott and former President/CEO Rick Welts (2002-2011). So Phoenix will be nicely represented with this class in what's already there:
    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...all-fame-class
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    The Suns won against Sac-Town Tuesday night to stop that awful, awful losing streak. Should done that against Houston and had the lead. But, you know, growing pains against a championship contender and a former Suns coach.
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    A brand new losing streak emerged since that Sacramento victory--and it surely will turn out to be the last one unless the Suns win their final regular season game in Dallas. Yesterday, Phoenix loses again to...no, not the Fakers, which would've been very bad in itself...but to GSW on Fan Appreciation Night 114-100 at home to ensure the Suns have the worst record in the NBA at 20-61, regardless what happens in Dallas tomorrow night against an equally depleted/injured Mavs team, and the best odds for the lottery balls. Was worried they wouldn't reach 20 wins. But you get the feeling there were some wins, not just the Houston would-be stunner, during that long, nasty losing streak. They really should have around 30 wins, maybe a few more, like, 35.

    Sure does look like Alex Len will walk away from Phoenix during the free agency as it didn't work out in Phoenix regardless, whatever the case:
    https://sircharlesincharge.com/2018/...s-free-agency/
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    Phoenix Suns make history once again in hiring the first European born and raised to become a head coach in Igor Kokoskov from Serbia with a 3-year contract under his belt. The head coach of the Slovenian Eurobasket 2017 national basketball team and presently Utah Jazz assistant to his friend Quinn Snyder actually knows the franchise having been an assistant from 2008-2013, also a first he made back then. Already got a ring as a Detroit assistant for Larry Brown in 2004. I congratulate him on this, and he's ready to run his own team after 20 years as an assistant. I know Igor's been waiting for this opportunity with the fact it's his dream team makes it more special. He can help mold and nurture young teams like Phoenix. I like this hire. That said, it is fair to ask questions regarding how his hiring would help and mold this roster Kokoskov inherits. Are they looking at drafting Eurobasket 2017 star and gold medalist 18-year old Luka Doncic, whom Kokoskov knows well, if they get finally that elusive #1 overall NBA draft pick? What can he do as a head coach that his Phoenix Suns predecessors also of limited experience--Earl Watson, Jeff Hornacek, Lindsey Hunter (first head coaching jobs for them), Terry Porter, and Jay Triano--failed to achieve since Mike D'Antoni and Alvin Gentry's departures? What changes does he have planned?

    His innovative offensive style is predicated on ball movement (usually 3-6 at minimum per possession) that sets up everyone equally, especially its high-usage stars. But higher than Philadelphia, San Antonio, and of course Utah. Hear he's very creative. Became naturalized since 2010 on the Suns home floor:
    https://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...kov/575908002/
    https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...uns-nba-column
    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...new-head-coach

    Jared Dudley certainly believes in Igor's teaching, offensive, and player development skills--but also vouches for Arizona Wildcat Deandre Ayton. Not a bad lottery choice himself either with his qualities:
    https://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...kov/539076002/

    There was talk approximately since 2 decades ago that Ettore Messina would be the first from Europe to do this; Messina, an Italian, put that out there in a FIBA Basketball Monthly interview at that time. He'll eventually get coaching duties very soon if Charlotte comes calling. Having already known in San Antonio as part of Pop's diverse coaching staff, he's well-respected league-wide too in his time inside the NBA.
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    You can obviously be sure that new Suns coach Igor Kokoskov and a few Suns scouts will descend in Belgrade for the Euroleague Final Four next weekend and check out Slovenian teen lottery pick Luka Doncic playing important minutes for Real Madrid at the highest club basketball level. We know Phoenix will finish no lower than 4th in the Draft Lottery as the NBA team with the worst record at 21-61 and possessing the best odds, but could this be the year #1 finally happens? If the Suns finally have that, I think that Phoenix will almost certainly select Doncic, whose already-high stock should get an even bigger boost if he plays a major role in Real Madrid's Euroleague title win.

    Some interesting offseason proposals...

    Russell Westbrook for Devin Booker? No way! He doesn't elevate his teammates play very well, for one thing:
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2018/05/...ell-westbrook/

    How about shipping Kahwi Leonard here? He could be that young elite players the Suns need who's a proven playoff winner to inspire the young team--think Tom Chambers as the first UFA from Seattle when he signed with Phoenix back in 1988, although Leonard is younger than TC. Or serve as a present-day Charles Barkley in 1992. Josh Jackson could be trade bait, but I wish he be kept since he's that rare young players who actually LIKES playing defense. Furthermore, the Spurs may like to acquire several young players from Phoenix to rejuvenate themselves. How about a draft pick that we don't really need?:
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2018/05/...arles-barkley/

    Clint Capela made tremendous strides this season to be an essential part of the Rockets core. He will get paid big time and Phoenix is reportedly interested in him:
    https://sircharlesincharge.com/2018/...a-free-agency/
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    Sorry for the lateness but....

    YES!!!! At last! At long, overdue last, the Phoenix Suns finally have the #1 overall NBA Draft pick in franchise history this year! Or tonight, more specifically. The basketball gods finally smile upon us and give us this tremendous gift, something that we could've had back in 1969 (remember Jerry Colangelo's dejection on the phone in losing the coin toss) and drafted Lew Alcindor. Or David Robinson in 1987. Goes without saying this #1 pick is extremely important for the Suns. Makes that utterly disappointing 50th season worth it. With such a talented, mature, sophisticated, professional, and deep draft class that will be around for years to come, this #1 pick determines the Suns' future--and hopefully championships. So they shouldn't mess this up--shouldn't be difficult.

    If I were Ryan McDonough and new coach Igor Kokoskov, I would select Real Madrid's Luka Doncic, the Slovenian wunderkind. Brilliant passing and court vision and savvy. Does some shooting and can create his shots. Elite ball-screening savvy. Nice rebounding skills. And perimeter defense. OK rim protection. If there's one significant flaw about Doncic, it's that he's not quite as athletic and not a good finisher. He's 19 years old and he's already a decorated EuroLeague player having thrived in playing with and against seasoned veterans in the last few years in leading Real Madrid to another EuroLeague and ACB title. He's been playing pro since age 13 and built for the modern game. Not your stereotypical European NBA prospect. No Darko here.

    But the final mock drafts leading up to the NBA Draft indicate that Phoenix will select DeAndre Ayton, the most productive college basketball player, as the consensus #1 pick. I wouldn't complain about this selection for many reasons: the Bahamian-born Ayton comes directly from the nearby University of Arizona, something that he has ties with owner Robert Sarver, and can drum further interest in the Suns. Phoenix certainly needs a center, a traditional weakness he could correct. His potential is huge: a 7-foot-5 wingspan with lots of big men around. Needs to be better in defensive engagement. Can play both ends of the floor. Provides enviable physical tools along with a polished offensive skill set next to a young core of Devin Booker, Josh Jackson, TJ Warren, and Dragan Bender. Finishing, rim protection, rebounding, and shot creation are all satisfactory. Ayton's shooting, passing, and perimeter defense all need some work. Both can be game changers.

    Phoenix also has the 16th pick in the first round and the 31st and 59th picks in the second round. Lately, some talk emerged about potentially trading up after #1 like #4 from Memphis and possibly take up Doncic. Some young Suns players may get traded. Minutes away! Get ready!
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    Moments ago..."With the first pick in the 2018 NBA Draft, the Phoenix Suns select...DeAndre Ayton from Nassau, Bahamas and the University of Arizona!"

    Possesses nice footwork with a freakish body, length, and freakish athleticism with soft hands and a developing inside-out skill set. The Suns this past season were just one of two teams in the last 20 years to finish last in both team offense and team defense (2010-11 Charlotte Bobcats). Got speed to spare in running the floor and light on his feet. Can he be a defensive anchor and be disciplined? Not as instinctive. Like to pick and pop rather than learn the pick and roll. Thinner version of Joel Embiid. Can dribble, pass, and shoot. Potential's great and near-certain to be a transcendent franchise center! He just became a Puma endorser like a few other new NBA rookies in a deal:
    http://kwese.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...puma-unveiling
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    Igor Kokoskov welcomes interim Milwaukee Bucks head coach Joe Prunty and his 22-year NBA experience (as lead assistant), Nate McMillan's son Jamelle, 1994 Arkansas Razorback national champion and former Sacramento Kings player Corliss Williamson (was coached by Kokoskov at Detroit), Northern Arizona Suns head coach Cody Toppert to his coaching staff, and Jason Staudt comes in leading as a player development coach and was once a Dragan Bender teammate at Maccabi Tel Aviv. Kokoskov's choices for his coaches he likes in terms of his philosophies is now complete:
    https://www.signalsaz.com/articles/n...oaching-staff/
    https://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...lan/707187002/
    http://arizonasports.com/story/15445...igor-kokoskov/
    https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...-breaking-news
    https://www.dcourier.com/news/2018/j...enix-staff-as/
    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...coaching-staff

    Now that DeAndre Ayton is on board at his hometown Phoenix Suns, the disappointing Alex Len, the Suns' 1st round lottery pick from 2013, becomes expendable and is expected to part ways with Phoenix. Len wasn't horrible when hoped to be a Rudy Goubert defensive type with a double double, but he couldn't crack a regular starting job. Development never materialized and never became a franchise player with foul trouble getting in the way. He can play but reinforces a traditional Suns weakness at center. To be fair, 2013 wasn't a good draft year overall in hindsight:
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2018/06/...isappointment/

    Didn't realize until after the Suns' awful tanking season was over that Elfrid Peyton was there when he came from Orlando. He too is one lots of Suns fans don't like. I actually him and Len. He can slash and can be valuable. Just not in Phoenix. Lacks a jumper. And Phoenix clearly needs a solid PG.

    BREAKING NEWS: Prepare to hear God Defend New Zealand as the NBL's New Zealand Breakers (my second fave NBL team behind the Sydney Kings) come to Phoenix on October 3 as the first preseason game announced. Former Suns star Shawn Marion is part-owner:
    https://valleyofthesuns.com/2018/06/...ame-announced/
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