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angry ant
06-04-2010, 08:34 PM
Discuss all issues concerning games played on the 7th of April here.

Wednesday 7 April
12:00 pm Pythons v Coasters
2:00 pm Rush v Cyclones
4:00 pm Rays v Reef
6:00 pm Monarchs v Fleet

upnorth
07-04-2010, 12:11 PM
Bradtke suiting up for the Pythons. Good move... he certainly had no idea how to coach them yesterday. Still no Danridge...what's the story with this??

Silencer83
07-04-2010, 01:09 PM
Anyone who is watching want to give us people stuck at work an update?

meg
07-04-2010, 01:12 PM
A much better game to start today. The Coasters are just ahead of the Pythons, with a clever use of the Game breaker clock just before the end of the half. A HUGE 4 by Helms got them up by 4 points, 57 to 61.

The Pythons have started the second on the GB clock, and Rillie immediately got a huge 4 pointer as well.
63 61 to the Pythons.
Danridge has just arrived and has suited up.

Clips
07-04-2010, 01:28 PM
Who are the refs for these games? Did they just pick a bunch of random state league refs from the area?

meg
07-04-2010, 01:31 PM
Shrouded in mystery, like the stats and players. I don't recognise any of them.
Pythons 85, Coasters 93. almost at the end of the third.
Sorry, have to go out now. Annoying kids expecting to be entertained in their holidays! Grrr.

Clips
07-04-2010, 01:36 PM
Shrouded in mystery, like the stats and players. I don't recognise any of them.
Pythons 85, Coasters 93. almost at the end of the third.
Sorry, have to go out now. Annoying kids expecting to be entertained in their holidays! Grrr.
http://www.knotjustjigs.co.uk/images/cup_and_ball_traditional_game.jpg

Silencer83
07-04-2010, 01:39 PM
Thanks Meg :)

Prodigal
07-04-2010, 01:53 PM
http://www.knotjustjigs.co.uk/images/cup_and_ball_traditional_game.jpg

even better

http://www.inspectorgadget.co.za/products/knivesetc/handcuffs.jpg

Clips
07-04-2010, 02:09 PM
Pythons lose again. 128 - 114. They put up some stats, but stuffed it up and put the same stats up for both teams.



- Showing some old school Gaze -> Copland alleys from the old Kmart Tigers days. Awesome.

- Next game us about to start, looks like they've changed their mind on how to introduce the players. The Rush all ran out to what sounded like a porn sound track, lined up and were introduced.

- Crowd looks much bigger, there's about 30 people there.

- BJ Carter introduced for whatever his team is called, looks like this guy (only not awesome):
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2009/08/504x_Cera_Awkward.flv.jpg

Marius08
07-04-2010, 02:11 PM
I like it that the organisers have taken a few suggestions on board and changed the player introductions to include a little info on each guy.
Plus, seems like they are trying a bit harder to provide stats, although in game 1, the full-time team stats rundown had exact same stats for each team!

Melb Wildcat
07-04-2010, 02:36 PM
Im loving watching Brad Bridgewater ring rattling dunks. He would be close to being able to get australian citizenship wouldnt he? He has played in the ABA for about 5 years now. Would be a good pick up for an NBL team if he had Australian citizenship.

Clips
07-04-2010, 02:40 PM
Im loving watching Brad Bridgewater ring rattling dunks. He would be close to being able to get australian citizenship wouldnt he? He has played in the ABA for about 5 years now. Would be a good pick up for an NBL team if he had Australian citizenship.
Bridgewater is an absolute monster. I saw him jump at a Gunners game, and I'm sure he had his penis taped to his knee.

FaceAndBum
07-04-2010, 02:44 PM
I like it that the organisers have taken a few suggestions on board and changed the player introductions to include a little info on each guy.
Plus, seems like they are trying a bit harder to provide stats, although in game 1, the full-time team stats rundown had exact same stats for each team!

Suggestions from who?. Not any1 on these boards? LOL.

Marius08
07-04-2010, 03:35 PM
Suggestions from who?. Not any1 on these boards? LOL.

Actually, yeh, from a few.
Derek sums it up best in his thread - http://www.ozhoopsboards.com/showthread.php?t=4878

Clips
07-04-2010, 03:49 PM
Huge dunk by Mario Brown(?) on Sedale JR

metalslugsman
07-04-2010, 05:06 PM
the refs are pretty ordinary in this game (Rays vs Reef). i guess they have been told to let them play a bit, but they are missing a heap and then calling some strange, soft fouls. Need to improve the standard of reffing

pilonv1
07-04-2010, 05:11 PM
Has anyone worked out the best way to use a Gamebreaker yet? Someone on commentary (Carfino or JVG) mentioned something yesterday, and it was a brilliant bit of strategy - since it's 3 minutes of clock time, play ultra slowdown and run the clock out while the opponent is using their gamebreaker. Makes perfect sense, take the air out of the ball, run the clock down and resume normal play after 3 minutes.

The fact that the best option to negate the gamebreaker is to make the game as effectively boring as possible should be ignored. Of course with the level of play being exhibited being more boring would be somewhat of a challenge.

Stumps
07-04-2010, 05:25 PM
Has anyone worked out the best way to use a Gamebreaker yet? Someone on commentary (Carfino or JVG) mentioned something yesterday, and it was a brilliant bit of strategy - since it's 3 minutes of clock time, play ultra slowdown and run the clock out while the opponent is using their gamebreaker. Makes perfect sense, take the air out of the ball, run the clock down and resume normal play after 3 minutes.

The fact that the best option to negate the gamebreaker is to make the game as effectively boring as possible should be ignored. Of course with the level of play being exhibited being more boring would be somewhat of a challenge.
That counter-exciting strategy is the first thing that occurred to me when I heard about the Gamebreaker: http://www.ozhoopsboards.com/showpost.php?p=204139&postcount=42

Of course, I spend too much time looking for loopholes in things, it being my job and all.

illusiv
07-04-2010, 05:49 PM
The gamebreaker is also good for taking it to the hoop. The defence will be focused on not giving up 3 point shots, so rotations will be less, and the lane will open up.

upnorth
07-04-2010, 06:03 PM
With the jump balls being in play, this is a little risky as far as maximising possesion goes, but I would like to see someone use their gamebreaker with about a minute and half or two minutes to go in a quarter (other than the 2nd) so they can try and use it for momentum at the end of that quarter and at the start of the next.

Going by JVG's comments yesterday, they 3 minutes does carry over to the next quarter, except for going between halves.

upnorth
07-04-2010, 06:22 PM
Royal Purple and Dark Blue!! Can we get some alternate strips please!

Cussy
07-04-2010, 07:25 PM
Royal Purple and Dark Blue!! Can we get some alternate strips please!

Dude, it was hard enought to get them out of the washing machine on time. You think alternate strips are going to happen?

curious
07-04-2010, 07:40 PM
Bridgewater is an absolute monster. I saw him jump at a Gunners game, and I'm sure he had his penis taped to his knee.
Yes he is a monster.
I do worry about someone who has a B and a B on the left and right rear calves.
Oh and he has no game.

Cussy
07-04-2010, 07:52 PM
Mike McKay looks younger today than he did in 1989.

fan since the old snakepit
07-04-2010, 08:27 PM
Goulding has been the star of the first few days.
Think the last match between Al Greens guys and King Coles team may be a preview of the final.
Hodge drops the "F" bomb in a timeout and promptly said sorry to the camera. Nice touch. Maybe he can explain to Westover if he returns to the Tigers.

Mr bEn
07-04-2010, 08:27 PM
the refs are pretty ordinary in this game (Rays vs Reef).

They have all been ordinary for each of the first two days. They are letting a LOT go. I'm not sure if this is because they've been told to let the game flow, or due to their incompetence?

After being a total hater, I'm coming around to being a fan of the concept. I love the fact we can watch every game live on the box (huge coup in hindsight). If it goes around again next year, I think we'll see a more talented pool of players who will want to play to be seen. Using the players for colour commentary has been smart as well. I liked listening to Homicide this arvo and what Bear, JR etc had to say.

metalslugsman
07-04-2010, 08:51 PM
John Rillie is a great sideline commentator - huge character. Give him a bad suit and a range of really shocking ties, shoes and socks and he could be our Craig Sager (with less brown-nosing)

I like the fact that some of the guys being interviewed are candid about seeking a contract in Oz out of this. Hopefully, someone will point out that we play a more team oriented game here and maybe some of these guys will start being more cohesive.

Day 2 was an improvement over day 1 - hopefully the improvement continues each day and the tournament is back next year as well

angry ant
07-04-2010, 09:10 PM
Huge dunk by Mario Brown(?) on Sedale JR
Yep, awesome dunk, seems a pretty good player, probably not NBL level though... Does anyone have footage to the dunk, or any other highlights?

Mitch Richmond AKA Rock
07-04-2010, 09:52 PM
Boxscores making their way to the website - day 1 with day 2 to follow I believe for all those stat lovers:

http://eliteclassicbasketball.com/

curious
07-04-2010, 11:14 PM
The best part about the whole competition is that there are so many potential imports here, it cuts a lot of B/S about trying to find a potential player for next season.
Most of what I have seen indicates that most of the potential imports aren't NBL material.

fan since the old snakepit
07-04-2010, 11:23 PM
I agree. I think JVG sold it to many of the visitors as just that. I think that this is the way to build on the concept. Get rid of the stupid rule changes. Keep up the $$$ and use it as a tryout for future NBL players. This is an oportunity to get a contract whether you are an import, returning college guy or a someone like Dann trying to get back into the league.

Skink
07-04-2010, 11:35 PM
How's the box score showing the 4 point shots?

Voice(s)
08-04-2010, 12:52 AM
Boti's Day 2 wrap up (first three games):

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/coasters-and-pythons-play-hard-ball/story-e6frecj3-1225850933831

Coasters 128 (Davison 27, Helms 26, Ng 21, Ratzch 17, McMillan, McDonald 12, Carter 10) d Pythons 114 (Williams 40, Rillie 29, Danridge 14, Robinson 11).

Rush 118 (Rose 25, Harrell 24, Dillon 21, Green 18, Bridgewater, Threatt 10) d Cyclones 113 (Dann 24, Woodberry 22, Carter 18, Brown 17, George 13, Reed 12).

Rays 94 (Gibson, Lisch 23, Ronaldson 13, Hill 11) d Reef 88 (Borgen 21, Fitzgerald 17, Cameron 12, Esparza 10).

Skindog the Hawk
08-04-2010, 12:56 AM
They have all been ordinary for each of the first two days. They are letting a LOT go. I'm not sure if this is because they've been told to let the game flow, or due to their incompetence?

Considering that you've got a mix of NBL and WNBL panel guys there, maybe it's a case of what they've been told to call (or not)? You definitely shouldn't have guys who are out of their depth though.

SD.

Junior Coach
08-04-2010, 07:53 AM
I'm really enjoying Cal Brutons involvement.

upnorth
08-04-2010, 10:47 AM
Considering that you've got a mix of NBL and WNBL panel guys there, maybe it's a case of what they've been told to call (or not)? You definitely shouldn't have guys who are out of their depth though.

SD.

I'm not familiar with which refs are which, but the team doing that Monarchs vs Fleet game seemed to be quite intimidated by the intensity of the game.

Clips
08-04-2010, 03:19 PM
How's the box score showing the 4 point shots?
http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-0701-3114-5753_Businessmans_Computer_On_Fire_clipart_image.j pg






I missed the game, did anything happen with Brett Maher and Julius Hodge? Hug it out? Fisty cuffs? Choke a bitch?