View Poll Results: Which Australia playing college hoops has the best chance to make it to the NBA?

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  • Anatoly Bose (Nicholls State)

    3 33.33%
  • Matt Dellavedova (Saint Mary's)

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  • Cody Ellis (Saint Louis)

    3 33.33%
  • Brock Motum (Washington State)

    1 11.11%
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Thread: 2010-11 NCAA College Season - following the Aussie men

  1. #201

    Default Bose @ the PIT

    The Portsmouth Invitational Tournament (PIT) has just been completed, and is a ?last chance? tournament for seniors to show their wares in a game situation against their peers prior to the NBA draft.

    Anatoly Bose played for Sales System Ltd who pretty much gave equal court time to everyone on their roster, and this is how they went:

    Game 1: Sales System Ltd lost to K&D Rounds Landscaping (eventual champion) 74-78.
    Bose started and scored 11 points on 4/9 shooting (3/5 3PT) to go with 6 rebounds and 2 turnovers in 28 minutes.

    Game 2: Sales System Ltd lost to Norfolk Sports Club 71-72.
    Bose came off the bench and scored 2 points on 1/6 shooting (0/4 3PT) to go with 1 rebound, 1 assist, 1 block and 1 turnover in 21 minutes.

    Game 3: Sales System Ltd defeated Mike Duman 95-58.
    Bose came off the bench and scored 14 points on 6/7 shooting (2/2 3PT, 0/1 FT) to go with 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and 1 turnover in just 18 minutes.

    Apart from 1 poor game, Bose did quite well, however probably not enough to get drafted I?m afraid, but my fingers remained crossed for him.

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    Graduating AIS 6'3" combo guard Corbin Wroe has committed to the University of Hartford for the 2011/12 season.

    Wroe who is part of the Australian Men's Under 19 National squad joins fellow Australian Ben O'Neill on the Hartford team that plays in the America East conference.

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    Some personal post-Final Four and postseason thoughts to get out of the way of the NCAA before I start to forget. I plan to write them in parts.

    Not going to mince words here: That national championship game in Houston between eventual champs UCONN and Butler was the worst NCAA men's basketball championship game I have ever seen. Was it because of the nerves from both schools and of being in a domed stadium? The shooting alone was atrocious, especially on Butler's side and of their experience in the championship from last year. But also give credit to Connecticut's size in their matchup against the Bulldogs, denying their chances to shoot effectively. Kemba Walker possesses the game of a shorter Dwayne Wade. However, because of his height issue perhaps, he may not get drafted very high.

    My bracket that I made up for fun got wrecked starting in the first weekend. But it really took a hit during the regionals. My pick to win it all, Ohio St., was narrowly stopped by Kentucky 62-60. Kentucky, to me, wasn't as experienced or deep like last season's group that featured super freshman John Wall. But they surprised me. However, I thought the Buckeyes, with surely their one and done star Jared Sullinger leading, their depth and frontcourt would prove themselves worthy. Boy, was I and lots of other people wrong. Sullinger says he'll stick around for another year in the hopes of getting that title.

    The First Four games in Dayton that opened the 2011 NCAA tournament really were competitive, especially the very first game of that between UNC-Asheville and Arkansas-Little Rock that went into overtime. But the complaining howls of why Alabama-Birmingham was there instead of the likes of Southwest Missouri St. seemed justified as they lost to Clemson. Did anybody predicted how far Virginia Commonwealth was going to go? It illustrated, like with fellow member George Mason in 2006, the Colonial Athletic Association is one damn good mid-major conference. More on the Rams later. Anyway, the First Four certainly left a positive impression to begin with. Which brings me to...

    No conference tournament champion--I don't care if you're from the Southland Conference from the ACC, the Pac-10, or the Big South. Even if it's the young Great West that doesn't have an automatic NCAA spot for several more years--should have to play in an opening round game.

    Since 2007, the NCAA started to standardize their tournament basketball courts except for the Final Four ones with only the name of the tournament host city and venue it's played on the baseline. I don't like this because, with the expected exception of the Final Four for it is special, it takes away the distinctions and diversity the basketball courts already in use there like even in college basketball venues that hosts them (University of Dayton Arena). I can understand the need for the NCAA to avoid any references to the NBA teams that play in several of the arenas on the courts, but this is too much; a good number of these arenas that get selected in recent years actually don't have a pro basketball tenant like in Jacksonville, Greensboro, and Anahiem and have their own default basketball courts. Thankfully, the women's NCAA tournament hasn't gone this route. Yet.
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    Default Salecich transfers to Div II School

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6521616

    From the ESPN article:

    Saint Louis guard Christian Salecich, a sophomore from Australia, is transferring to Missouri Southern.

    The school previously had granted a release for Salecich, who made 31 starts his freshman year but only four last season. Salecich averaged 6.4 points and 2.3 rebounds as a freshman and 2.3 points last season.

    Saint Louis coach Rick Majerus said Tuesday he believes Salecich will play a more meaningful role at Missouri Southern, an NCAA Division II school.

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    Gary Williams in Maryland has decided to hang it up and retire. What makes his coaching career stand out in Maryland, Boston College, American, and Ohio St. is not just his NCAA championship in 2002 with the Terrapins, a team that featured Juan Dixon, though it's his crowning achievement. It's that he managed to succeed when he probably should not have. Just being in the ACC with the likes of Duke and North Carolina as the perennial kings of the conference should've, in the casual assumption of the ACC, prevented him from going deep into the NCAA and recruiting good talent, let alone getting a title. His teams were dangerous at the Cole Field House and later the Comcast Center as homes and later surpassed Lefty Drisell in wins. More important, he rescued a program that was reeling from the ill-fated Bob Wade era (Wade was the former Dunbar High basketball coach in Baltimore that was a national prep power featuring Tyrone "Mugsy" Bouges and Reggie Lewis (RIP)) and the death of Len Bias. But he also had an icy relationship with then-AD Debbie Yow. Texas A&M coach Mark Turgeon will take over.

    That UNLV HBO documentary disappointed me in some ways when I saw it. Comes off not as compelling. Given how long the NCAA hounded that program and how controversial it was under the Tarkanian years, it should've been longer in length, giving more time detailing the controversy and the exciting play that made national powers over the years. It had the ingredients of a brilliant doc, but the sum didn't add up. I would've liked to see more details about the Reggie Theus years, he role of Jerry's son Danny as the star in building it, and how a niche athletic company at the time named Nike changed the college basketball landscape by paying UNLV to be the official outfitter and supplying the shoes as a way to promote the brand, a relations ship that goes on to this day. The focus was on understandably on the mid 80s and the early 90s glory years. How did it feel to be a national powerhouse in a conference that was and still is a mid-major (the Pacific Coast Athletic Association, now the Big West)? More about Sidney Green and of the old home court they played, Las Vegas Convention Center, and the legacy of the Tark years and the persecution would be nice too. We didn't get to hear from Larry Johnson, Anderson Hunt, Stacey Augmon, or Moses Scurry in this, which is a shame. That Fab Five documentary on ESPN was a hell of lot better, and that incorporated an era that was, while controversial on its own merits, ground-breaking and shorter. Did like the Kentucky Fried Chicken bit, though.

    ESPN's Fab Five documentary is brilliant! According to the Wikipedia ESPN 30 for 30 page, it is part of the 30 For 30-inspired series along with a future one involving Steve Bartman and scapegoating. It really captured at a time with the gap between the rich and the poor coupled with the growing demographic shift to an apparently threatening younger and more multicultural generation with aspects the mainstream (white culture) was unfamiliar with. There's so much to touch on from the film. For now, I'll talk about what was the oft-talked about flashpoint regarding Jalen Rose's comment regarding Grant Hill being "an Uncle Tom". Rose has admitted he said that when he was 17. I know this was already mentioned on these boards on the NBA thread. I didn't participate in that because I felt it centered only in the NCAA context not NBA, even though both Rose and Hill later became NBA stars. Notice he said "felt" (his teammates say the same things). That is, in the past tense. He doesn't think that way for years. I knew he was talking about his mindset going on at the time. He adds that he also admits he was jealous of the kind of privileged life Grant lived with a legendary and classy All-Pro Dallas Cowboy for a father and a mother who was a college roommate of Hilary Rodham Clinton. With that lifestyle to be native in, you, without a doubt, get the kind of full access and doors to the mainstream most poor and working class could wish for. In some ways, it's funny because one of the Fab Five players, one Chris Webber, attended an upscale Detroit suburban private prep school called Country Day and was Mr. Basketball in Michigan and the #1 high school player in the nation. So Webber surely had the access.

    People, regardless of their class background, need to realize that we African-Americans are a lot more diverse than we're accredited for socially, culturally, politically, economically, etc. Rose was bitter over that he and his mother had to struggle for everything in his life while Hill enjoyed the "great life". The term Uncle Tom is such a heated charge aimed at and among African-Americans, particularly men. It sends the message to supposedly need to police the blackness and culture of the community at a time when there's still no color equality. Who sets the parameters? Like I suggest, it has as much to do with class as with race, since many blacks are in the working class, rather than in the upper classes, and the society is getting cutthroat. As a young African-American male, I, too, got called sellout and Uncle Tom because I was "talked white", engaged in what would be framed as 'white" stuff, got good grades during adolescence for examples. I wasn't deemed in the eyes of a significant amount of young blacks at the time a "real" black person. Likely in their ignorant mindset, my blackness was not the threatening type for whites. Though at times it did come out of me, that really was not my image. Here's the interesting kicker: I never, ever grew up with a privileged background. In fact, it was very dysfunctional and anarchic with setbacks. But I was raised to appreciate and value my education and to be genuine curious growing up by using a lot of reference materials like encyclopedias, atlases, and almanacs. I did attend several types of schools, which is interesting and a separate topic in itself. Therefore, I was subjected to a near-daily and intense dose of the ignorance firsthand aimed against me. But enough about that at this time. More on that and other Fab Five aspects next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durbansandshark View Post
    As a young African-American male
    My Ozhoops world has been turned upside down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian View Post
    My Ozhoops world has been turned upside down.
    I made no secret of me being such since I arrived here several years ago. I just have that odd kind of curiousity, in the eyes of many here in the USA, that I can go around to places like here. As far as Americans go here, I'm in a minority (pun not intended).

    Hard to say at this point what will happen to Bruce Pearl in his immediate future after being let go as coach of Tennessee. But I strongly don't believe it will be good for him. I like the guy with his great personality. Indeed, he's good friends with Pat Summitt while taking the men's Volunteers program to unprecedented heights. But those improper infractions, like admitting to illegally contacting recruits and falsifying info to the NCAA's investigation, will get to him. Notice that the Southeastern Conference had punished Pearl with an 8-game SEC conference regular season schedule suspension and the school reduced the salary of Pearl and his coaching staff of $1.5 million for the next five years with a delayed retention bonus. This is not the first time Pearl ran afoul with the NCAA, when he was an assistant coach at Iowa in 1988-89, he caused a scandal with Illinois, when both were after top Chicago recruit Deon Thomas. Long story short, Pearl lost his battle with Illinois over Thomas and later recorded a phone conversation asking Thomas if the Fighting Illini offered him a SUV and cash from then-Illinois assistant Jimmy Collins to try to make him come Iowa's way. He answered just to make Pearl go away by denying the allegations, saying that it was all false with a lie detector proclaiming Thomas telling the truth. Though Illinois was cleared of any wrongdoing, it was guilty of lacking institutional control with several violations and a one-year postseason ban, among the several recruiting restrictions. It's all very schlocky, very bad spy novel stuff what Pearl did. Because of this, coaches around the NCAA blackballed him in the D1 level and even prompting Dick Vitale on an ESPN college basketball telecast describing it as committing "coaching career suicide". At that time, it would very much be. Now with the NCAA college basketball coaching landscape being much more cutthroat than it was back then, it wouldn't be such and someone like Pearl can resurface OK. After that, he went on to coach the Southern Indiana Screaming Eagles and then Wisconsin-Milwaukee before going to Knoxville.

    One thing I did not like as the NCAA awaits its verdict was the manner how Tennessee AD
    Mike Hamilton made the mistake about saying publicly the possibly removing Pearl after the end of the season, which was seen as very good. Just when Tennessee was about to play Michigan in the first round. Don't kid yourself into thinking what Hamilton said for stirring the pot about the uncertain Pearl was undergoing at the time affected the players then. Indeed, the kids playing against the Wolverines were deflated emotionally and physically. Consequently, while not taking away Michigan's win and what they accomplished, they lost that badly. It's not the typical Pearl team. One thing you could count on Pearl is the fact that his team be it in USI, UW-Milwaukee, and Tennessee, his teams will always play hard.
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    lots of good nbl talent guys coming through the college ranks (Motum,Dellavedova,Page,Young,Bose,ellis,Vanderbur g) i just dont see any of them ever getting to the nba

    wonder who the next aussie to get into the nba will be

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    I assumed that with the University of New Orleans Privateers and Centenary Gents both going down to DIII in basketball, the NCAA will put a moratorium on teams wishing to get promoted to Division I, and that schools would be more cautious in joining. Turns out I was wrong: in March the Nebraska-Omaha Mavericks are going to put their entire athletic department to Division 1. Its ice hockey program is already there and is very successful. A perennial playoff contender in D2 football, the Mavericks, in order to facilitate this transition, is dropping the football program altogether. The school has faith it will be competitive in a short time in basketball and other sports as it sets its sights on the Summit League next year. Too bad the Big 12 can't get them right now; with Nebraska gone in July to the Big Ten, that conference could use another Nebraska representative in its ranks. But that's down the road for years. Besides, its Mavericks football stadium is too small by Big 12 standards right now. Nebraska-Omaha makes the third Nebraska representative in NCAA D1 with Nebraska (based in Lincoln) and Creighton (also in Omaha). A key thing in this change lies in the NCAA's time period for expanding its Division I ranks (at least in football) expires in this fall.

    UCSD Tritons plans to join Division I in every sport but football in the Big West with the Cal St.-Bakersfield Roadrunners likely joining it simultaneously.

    North Dakota will join the Big Sky Conference in 2012. It just voted on extension to retire the Fighting Sioux name and logo by August 10. Southern Utah will also join the Big Sky in 2012.
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  10. #210

    Default Matt Hodgson transfers to Saint Mary's College

    Southern Utah's Aussie centre Matt Hodgson is transferring to Saint Mary's College for next season to join fellow Aussies Clint Steindl, Matt Dellavedova, Mitchell Young and Jorden Page as a Gael.
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    John Rillie has been promoted to assistant coach at Boise State, after working as Director of Basketball Operations last season.

    Get set for Boise State to become the next Saint Mary's!

    The Aussie ties at Saint Mary's also have recently become stronger, with Aussie Adam Caporn named as Assistance Coach there as well.

  12. #212

    Default Trist & Lewis head to college as well

    Current Emu Daniel Trist is set to play next season for Lafayette in the Patriot League.

    His team mate Lewis Thomas has signed on to play for University of California Santa Barbara in the Big West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durbansandshark View Post
    ... and to be genuine curious growing up by using a lot of reference materials like encyclopedias, atlases, and almanacs.
    Is that how you became a walking basketball encyclopaedia? If only the NBL commentators had 10% of your thirst for basketball knowledge. Appreciate your contributions here, even though I've heard of only a small fraction of the names you mention.
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    Don't know if this post belongs here or should have its own thread but anyway:

    If you want to watch some Aussie kids with aspirations of playing in college, look up the Eddie Ford hoopfest on ihigh.com. The Aussie team is called the All State Oz Stars and they're coached by Adonis Jordan. One of the kids is the son of a friend
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    A couple weeks late but it's still sad. He didn't realize what he just did at that moment back in 1983 on surely what could have been a Derek Whittenberg miss would go on to become one of the more memorable moments in NCAA basketball history. If Lorenzo Charles didn't dunk it to win, his coach Jimmy V (RIP) would never made that famous mad dash on the New Mexico Lobos' court looking for someone on his Cardiac Kids team to hug. Houston Cougars with Clyde, Larry Mischeaux, and (H)Akeem would would've won. But he was always humble even afterwards and into a very brief NBA career. 47 is still waaaaaaaaaaaayyy too young to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franklin View Post
    Don't know if this post belongs here or should have its own thread but anyway:

    If you want to watch some Aussie kids with aspirations of playing in college, look up the Eddie Ford hoopfest on ihigh.com. The Aussie team is called the All State Oz Stars and they're coached by Adonis Jordan. One of the kids is the son of a friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by shin View Post
    Direct link?
    Here's one of the games

    http://www.ihigh.com/eddiefordhoops/...?silverlight=1

    or else click on the "Archived Broadcasts" link and there's lots of games there (but not necessarily the Aussie games)
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    Texas A&M going to the SEC??? Could the Gig' Em spread its way across the southeastern US region there from the Big 12? Sure sounds possible as that all-powerful sports conference would love that deep Texas market to even out its membership. For 20 years, it's got Arkansas, which has long thought itself as an outsider in the old Southwest Conference with all those Texas schools. The Aggies are actually an underrated all-around athletic department nationally, especially with the Aggies winning the 2011 NCAA women's basketball title.
    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...-official-says
    http://www.dallasobserver.com/2011-0...a-amp-m-again/

    We remember around this time last year I posted that first-person account of a former agent named Lux who told SI in great detail about how he helped (illegally) paid college football players and financially provided whatever they needed. And I questioned aloud about what if this happened to college basketball players, which I surely presumed and know happens. Got such a situation now: For a span of 11 months of investigation with 100 hours of jailhouse interviews, Nevin Shapiro, a former University of Miami (FL) Hurricane booster currently imprisoned for a $930million Ponzi scheme, is coming clean about his very damaging impropriarities from a span of 2002-2010 in a major Yahoo! Sports story as part of a plea deal and cooperation with federal prosecutors. The lid has now blasted off like, um, in a hurricane! He paid and sustained thousands of impermissible benefits and such brazen NCAA rule-breaking to 72 former Miami football and basketball players. Shapiro paid in estimated millions to players for entertainment in his multimillion dollar home and yacht, recruitment, visits to high-end nightclubs and restaurants, limo rides, gifts, prostitutes, sex parties, travel, in-game bounties (even for injured opposing players), jewlery, dinner, financing housing, strip clubs, and in one case, paying the female acquaintance's abortion of a former Miami football player. Worse, the seven Miami football and basketball coaches at the time KNEW and even participated in about all this, including former Miami Hurricane basketball coach Frank Heith (now at Mizzou)! Shapiro was brazen about all this, and no area within the Hurricanes did he not entrench. His ex-girlfriend says all this was true. If so, we could perhaps see Miami (FL) Hurricanes earning the death penalty like SMU did back in the 1980s. Perhaps the topper in a year of notable college programs behaving badly. I'll have more to say soon, but this is far, far worse than I introduced last year.

    As Redback Venom said last in reaction to the other revelation, change is definitely needed! The NCAA needs to stop its hypocrisy! Until our American society becomes more socially equitable and less cutthroat, something that has surely not happened in the past 32 years, this will continue to go on. If you have seen The U (Miami Hurricanes football in the 1980s and 1990s with their badass swagger) and Pony Exce$$ (SMU football and the death penalty in the 1980s) ESPN docs, they might want to revise them. Sucks to be new Miami football coach Al Golden and his basketball copunterpart Jim Larranaga right now. Both quality guys.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/investigatio...enefits_081611
    http://espn.go.com/college-football/...miami-athletes
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    Duke vs China tonight live on ESPN 2.
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    Default Any news on movements for 2011/12?

    I'm getting ready for the 2011/12 season and wanted to gauge if there have been any further movements on the Aussie front...some additions I have identified to date:

    Illiwa Baldwin was deemed ineligible to play college hoops due to Academic reasons and hence departed Nevada last season.

    Ben Kelly has departed Cal Poly - not sure why and cannot find any further details.

    Tanner Kerry has departed Pepperdine - again, not sure why and cannot find any further details.

    Some additional incoming Freshman:

    Hooley, Peter / Fr / G / Albany / America East
    McBeath, Sam / Fr / F / Nicholls State / Southland
    Prest, Lachlan / Fr / F / Nicholls State / Southland
    Rowley, Sam / Fr / F / Albany / America East

    NSU also boast another Aussie in Linden Smith-Hyde and therefore will boast 3 Aussies, whilst the addition of Hooley and Rowley for Albany means they will feature 3 Aussies in 2011/12 (alongside Devlin).
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    Cameron Witt has decided to focus on his studies during 2011/12 at Valparaiso and therefore wil not play, effectively ending his college playing career.

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    All this when Bryce Drew takes over from his dad Homer there as head coach.
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    I know...interesting history with the Drew family and Aussie players...Aaron Bruce played under Scott Drew @ Baylor.

    This coming season has a number of Div I team featuring multiple Aussie men:

    Saint Marys - 5 (Steindl, Delly, Young, Page & Hodgson RS) + Caporn as Assistant Coach
    Albany - 3 (Devlin, Hooley & Rowley)
    Nicholls State - 3 (Smith-Hyde, McBeath & Prest)
    Boise State - 2 (Drmic & Hadziomerovic) + Rillie as Assistant Coach
    Bryant - 2 (McMath & Maynard)
    Colorado - 2 (Tomlinson & Harris-Tunks)
    Hartford - 2 (O'Neill & Wroe)
    New Mexico - 2 (Bairstow & Greenwood)
    Oregon State - 2 (Brandt & Murphy)
    Southern Utah - 2 (Massey & Heuir)
    Stetson - 2 (Naburgs & McInerney)
    Texas-San Antonio - 2 (Hill & Nujic)
    Washington State - 2 (Motum & Kernich-Drew)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedbackVenom View Post

    Ben Kelly has departed Cal Poly - not sure why and cannot find any further details.
    Ben Kelly is now at West Georgia
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    This is an extremely important piece on the insight of college athletics in the NCAA that is definitely well worth your reading. I'm still reading this piece and will share my thoughts on this, among other things, the Ed O'Bannon EA Sports lawsuit soon (in small doses, of course). With all the college sports scandals, the paying of student athletes, and conference shufflings going on, it's obviously good to learn all this.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ngle_page=true
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